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RurouniTriv wrote: As for voting: if you don't vote, I don't see how you have any right to complain about politics. You've opted out. Personally, I think that half the problems with the current political situation could be solved if people would actually get off their butts and demand competent, honest leaders instead of griping and moaning about how their votes don't count and not even making the attempt.
Is voting the solution? When you are choosing between two (and ocasionally one to three minor parties) and there is almost never someone who you want anywhere near a position of power? When it isn't even the lesser of two evils because neither is lesser, just different, you are supposed to go vote to elect someone you don't support? I believe it is possible to have a principled anti-vote stance that still entitles you to complain. There are only so many times you can vote for someone who does not represent you and still think that you are voting against the other person rather than for the one you punch. That person will still count your vote as support...you still might help elect him/her... and there are times when that is more than I can stomach. I leave a lot of blanks when voting.....
Is voting going to get competent, honest leaders when there are none on the ballot? No. And the way our system is set up makes it incredibly difficult to change that. Everyone voting isn't enough
Han-Shan wrote:You all being the self procliamed satanist that be, i'm not surprised you all voted for george dubya bush
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