Williow as an Wiccan

[Elfinholly]

I am doing a dissertation on Religions in Buffy and Angel and want to ask what you think of Williow as a Wiccan.Does she practise properly? I notice that she doesn't stick to a particuly God and Goddess, is this normal? Is it normal for witches to practise without a male presence?Anyway what do you think of the representation of Wiccan in Buffy. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Thanks

[FyreGarnet]

Well, as I never watched the show, I can't say. However, there are many wiccans who do worship only the goddess, and are usually in covens where only women are allowed. There's nothing wrong with that, if that is what they want to believe in.

FyreGarnet

[Stormy]

Never watched the show myself, but as a rule, Hollywood usually does a very poor job in portraying ANY religion

Stormy

PS I appologize but I had to edit the one color in your post, for those of us using a white background it was so hard to read I had to check to see if my eyes were bleeding

[Fairydust]

very true stormy...I also dont watch it but...If you would Like Ill ask my friend susie who is like in love with the show...

[morgana]

I've seen the show a few times, TOTAL and COMPLETE FICTION! For the love of the gods, don't take ANYTHING that show says for truth!! Willow is about as good a Wiccan as the girls from Charmed, or the girls in the movie The Craft. TV shows and movies about witchcraft are always entertaining, but from my experience, definitely not true representations of what witchcraft is REALLY about. Usually in Hollywood, they make it all about the magick and spells. REAL Wicca/Paganism goes much deeper than that.

[Wbdsgnr1]

i love buffy and willow but i had no idea it had anything to do with wicca. Ha, but I agree that Media is a poor rep of paganism or wicca or any religeon.

And yes I am a witch and I practice without a male figuire around. Sometimes with my boyfriend FIrelord but most of the time by myself. Why would you need someone with you there all the time? Solitary practitioners dont have this.

thats about my 2 cents.

blessed be

[Elfinholly]

Thanks for your replies. I wanted to ask Morgana if all of Williow's practise are fictional. I have noticed things that seem to be wiccan beliefs so besides the FX spells is nothing Wiccan?

[morgana]

Well, from the times that I've seen the show, it does all seem to be fiction. Even if some things have a *hint* of truth to them, that's all it really is. For instance, using candles for rituals and spells, yes Wiccans/Pagans use candles for rituals/spells. Although if the actual spell itself is used by Wiccans/Pagans, probably not; and I've never seen an episode where she does a ritual for a holiday or just to honor a deity, and that in itself is where one of the major flaws is. I myself am not Wiccan, so I can't tell you definitely whether something IS or ISN'T Wiccan with much certainty, but what I will tell you is this: it's definitely NOT all about the spells and magick. It's a *spiritual path* dedicated to worship of a deity or deities of old. Spells are nothing more than a small part of that. Also, I don't know if it has ever been on the show, but usually most good hollywood witchcraft shows and movies will include one particle of truth called the Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do as ye will" If you've seen that in the show, that IS a true element of Wicca, but probably not much else.

[Wbdsgnr1]

all the show does is run around and Vanquish demons and the white lighters heal. Oh wait, thats Charmed.

I haven't watched too much Buffy since Willow became a witch or whatever. I just remember her as the smart one doing all the research in the library. Shes not a physical fighter ya know.

but i would say they dont follow the Rede or follow any particular deity.

blessed be

[runewulf]

Well, this is a topic I wasn't expecting to see, heh heh.

As far as it goes, I think through most of the series, she's a good role model in general. She is a genuinely sweet person who tries to help others and be compasionate.

However, the flip side is that most of what you see is far from real witch craft or magick and the whole banishing demons, vamps, etc... isn't exactly a realistic view. Not to mention the whole "dark Willow" thing that went on.

wassail

[morgana]

Aww, does Rune watch Buffy? That's so cute! Sorry, just had to get that outta my system.

[runewulf]

I tend to leave whatever is on the television on when I'm working... you'd be surprised some of what I have sat through while working on the laptop, heh heh.

wassail

[Brown Eyed Girl]

I'm very sad and used to watch Buffy every time it was on TV... yup I've even watched all the series on dvd... lmao :: hides head in bucket ::

if the members on this boards start running round psychotically with black eyes and pulsating veins in there head and are about to destroy the world.... urm... I'm catching a plane to a desert island!

Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do as ye will"

that's in one of my favorite books just written a little different "an it harm no one, do what thou wilt". along with my favorite quote i usually use in my signatures"when you are born into life, you are dying from death, and when you die from life, you are born into death"

lols sorry for rambling.. again.

[amaryllis_silverthorne]

I watched the show once and although it wasn't that accurate, i think Willow's attitude was pretty good...

~Amaryllis