BeoWulf

[Kitsune]

I must admit, I have studied heathenty about as much as I have studied Buddism... I may know the basics but I have a long way to go before I can claim that I am an expert.

That said, I watched the movie Beowulf last night! It's an excellent movie, and the CG is nearly flawless.

Now, I don't want to ruin the story by waxing poetically on my favourite parts, but I do have a question for those that know more than I on heathenry.


In the movie, one of the characters is Kinslayer (apparently something about killing his brothers in a rage when he found them "discovering" their mother in bed one night ). I mentioned that I thought that Kinslayers were denied entrance into Vahalla because it was thought that the gods wouldn't accept someone who could kill family as honorable and worthy of the Glory of Valhalla.

Grimwell argued that the killing (especially the points made in the movie) made the killings forgivable by the gods. And thus Glory could still earn them their place in the mead hall.

I was wondering what heathenry does say about Kinslayers? How about in your individual traditions?

Oh, and see this movie, the soundtrack is incredible too! I'm picking it up today if it's out... It's just that good! It has a few of (what sounds like) the old songs being sung to the harp. I'll know more if the soundtrack is out already!

[morgana]

Man, I've wanted to see that movie since mid-September!! I will be seeing it on Wednesday, so thanks for the early review, I thought it looked like a pretty awesome movie! Yay! Now I can't wait to see it!!

[Stormy]

Actually - the entire movie is CG - it's a 3d rendered movie just like Shrek. They mapped the faces of the actors onto 3d models. And yes, it's the best I've ever seen.

They did the story justice - no doubt!

[Crazy Healer Lady]

good to know it does the story justice!! That is what was stopping me from going to see it... maybe I will reconsider

[Ragnar]

In the movie, one of the characters is Kinslayer (apparently something about killing his brothers in a rage when he found them "discovering" their mother in bed one night ). I mentioned that I thought that Kinslayers were denied entrance into Vahalla because it was thought that the gods wouldn't accept someone who could kill family as honorable and worthy of the Glory of Valhalla.

Grimwell argued that the killing (especially the points made in the movie) made the killings forgivable by the gods. And thus Glory could still earn them their place in the mead hall.

If the reason can be justified, ie the person killed is an oath, or trust breaker, then I see no problem.

Loké killed Baldur, but is still invited into Valhla.

Definitely a case by which extenuating circumstances must be taken into account.

[Kitsune]

Thanks for clarifying that, Ragnar! There was a definate kinslayer in the movie, and the extenuating circumstances definately qualified in this case. I remembered them being picky on that point, but like I said, my knowledge is in no way complete.

As for the movie... Like I said it was a good movie. I don't know the original story, but it was exceptionally well done. I will be buying the soundtrack (out on Nov. 20), and the movie itself when it comes out. I will probally look out this story online and see if I can find out more about it!

[Crazy Healer Lady]

*GASP*

Beowulf was my hero when I was a kid! I was lucky - I grew up with my parents having a small library of leatherbound classics. There was this one book called The Red Book of Animal Stories all about classic creatures of myth and legend, and because of Grendel and also the dragon, the story of Beowulf was written out. I did not like the other movie that came out recently - all this back story that had nothing to do with the original and really distorted the characters.

[Ragnar]

I presume someone has treated a spammer with extreem predjudice here, and thats why I got a message from this thread?

[Kitsune]

Somebody must have...

Oh, and just to update, I now own the soundtrack to Beowulf (though I had to order from Amazon to get it). It's incredible, though there are only two harp songs. The two harp songs (Maybe three minutes total) is worth buying the album for!

[Ragnar]

They had this on over the holidays. Guess what? It was the ONLY night the whole holidays we had a call out!!

[Willow]

That's always the way! Crummy, which version of beowolf is it? I watched beowolf and grundel with Sarah Polley and wasn't overly impressed.

Any main actors or production companiees I can use to narrow it down?

[Ragnar]

Hmmm. "The latest" as far as the advertising went. As I said, never did get to see it.

[Kitsune]

The new one done all in CG.

It's awesome. I haven't seen any of the other ones, and while on second run-through you do start noticing a few problems, People do that with everything. The 2 songs with her singing on harp are incredible though, and I'm going to have to look up more harp music.

On the other hand, hearing the two songs makes me want to find a teacher and learn how to play. Hopefully I'll find a teacher who won't mind that I'm tone deaf.

[Crazy Healer Lady]

I presume someone has treated a spammer with extreem predjudice here, and thats why I got a message from this thread?

Jerks disturbed my holidays.

Kitsune, you may not necessarily need a teacher for the harp. Even if you are tone-deaf, it's great fun to pick up an instrument and learn through plucking away at the strings. Online videos on YouTube are a great help, as are Levels books and videos. I've learned most of my instruments that way. Currently I'm learning the Ocarina. Easy to learn; hard to master. I've played around with harps. They seem like they'd be great fun, and easy enough to get as soon as that "click" of a mental state comes (be one with the harp. Be ONE with the harp!)