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Creation Story?

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:47 pm
by Cineilea
Okay... well I was talking to my christian friend... (well I don't know if I can call her that)... aquentence. Anyways, she was talking...well arguing (and I will explain this more later if you care to read) and she was like 'Whats your story of creation? Christians have one. What about you? I mean... my friend and I thought about it and well, we were thinking that there god created the world because he was bored... but what about our God and Goddess? I've heard one or two I think... are there all different ones? Please explain.

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:20 am
by morgana
I think they are all different depending on the pantheon you study, or just your own personal beliefs about how the universe came to be.

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 7:22 am
by Wbdsgnr1
i have a really awesome creation story for witches/wiccans.
I would gladly post it, even tho its fairly long, I have it on a word document on my computer.

But there are many many different creation storys and most pagans I think believe in evolution and not a creation story. The stories are for other purposes, myths, etc.

Does that make sense?


blessed be

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:17 pm
by socialgreen
That would be fine Wb-1 but section it out on different post. Say, post one with a section, then post a second with a section, the third...This will make it more readable. I know the Irish Celts did not have a creation story but that Ireland was empty until it was peopled. Long story behind that one heh heh.

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:48 pm
by Lotus
My goodness there are many creation stories! My favorite is the Chinese one with the God Pan'ku who layed the cosmic bird egg.
The cosmos was split into four seasonal/directional sections and guarded by the guardians of that quaderant. Suzaku is the phoenix fire god of the south representing Summer time. Genbu is the tortuse earth god of the North representing Winter time. Soiryu is the blue dragon god of the east representing Spring. I forget the white tiger's name god representing Autumn.
I've known people to call these cosmic gods as guardians in their rituals and Pan'ku as the representation of spirit.

BB
Lotus

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:21 am
by FyreGarnet
I learned that story in my chinese history class. That is definately one of the better creation stories.

FyreGarnet

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:20 pm
by Cineilea
Hmm... thats cool! I'll look at some of them later. That makes sense Wbds... Hmm. Thanks!

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:24 am
by Linny
Lotus wrote:My goodness there are many creation stories! My favorite is the Chinese one with the God Pan'ku who layed the cosmic bird egg.
The cosmos was split into four seasonal/directional sections and guarded by the guardians of that quaderant. Suzaku is the phoenix fire god of the south representing Summer time. Genbu is the tortuse earth god of the North representing Winter time. Soiryu is the blue dragon god of the east representing Spring. I forget the white tiger's name god representing Autumn.
I've known people to call these cosmic gods as guardians in their rituals and Pan'ku as the representation of spirit.

BB
Lotus
Suzaku, Genbu, Byakku, and Seiryuu. The things one can learn by watching Anime...Definitely a cool story though.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:22 am
by socialgreen
I read somewhere that people have to have an end of a story instead of one that does not end.

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:23 am
by Kystar
I've read one creation myth, can't remember the origins but I know its oriental, about a giant who was pushing the Ying and Yang apart until they turned into the sky and the water?, then he died and the fleas on his body became people.

I think I'd better look that one up...but interesting thought

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:22 pm
by FyreGarnet
That would be pang gu.

He was born of an egg, which cracked in half, creating the yin and yang. He grew 6 feet every day. Eventually he died, and the parts of his body became parts of the world. His hair became plants, and trees, his blood became rivers and oceans, his beard became stars, his eyes became the sun and the moon, his bone marrow became minerals and stones and gems. And yes, people came from the lice and fleas on his body.

My teacher joked about some bearing a strong resemblance to their ancestors, lol.

FyreGarnet

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:37 pm
by Kystar
Ah, yes, I knew I read that...but I tend to read myths and creation stories by the gross, so I have a hard time remembering exactly what it was unless it's something that jumps up and smacks me.

Thanks for the clarification

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:18 am
by RavenEyes
The Egyptian creation story:

At first, there was only Nun. Nun was the dark waters of chaos.
One day, a hill rose up out of the waters. This hill was called Ben-Ben.
On this hill stood Atum, the first god.
Atum coughed and spat out Shu, the god of the air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture.
Shu and Tefnut had two children. First, there was Geb, the god of the earth. Then, there was Nut, the goddess of the sky.
Shu lifted Nut up so that she became a canopy over Geb.
Nut and Geb had four children named Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephthys.
Osiris was the king of the earth and Isis was the queen. Osiris was a good king, and he ruled over the earth for many years.
However, everything was not well. Seth was jealous of Osiris because he wanted to be the ruler of the earth. He grew angrier and angrier until one day he killed Osiris.
Osiris went down into the underworld and Seth remained on earth and became king.
Osiris and Isis had one son called Horus. Horus battled against Seth and regained the throne.
After that, Horus was the king of the earth and Osiris was the king of the underworld.


This is a short version...

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:54 am
by Arcanum Owl
Woah!! RavenEyes, what source are you quoting there? If your going to talk about the Egyptian creation atleast get the names right.
http://www.spiralnature.com/spiritualit ... ation.html

That's the only link I could find, I've seemed to have lost the Book of the Dead and this link differs greatly to that.

Dang I wanted to reread that.

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:59 am
by Arcanum Owl
Ahhh yuck! Even that link isn't a very good one. Oh well it's close enough.

I can't believe I didn't save a copy of that manuscript.
Dammit!!