Was Jesus a witch?

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Was Jesus a witch?

Post by Willow » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:34 am

I cam across a not so interesting website but reading this passage from the bible I noticed something

"Deuteronomy 18:10 -11-12 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee."

Didn't Jesus converse with Demons while casting them out? Didn't he prophescy and tell the future? Didn't he fast in the desert to commuicate with Satan, a spirit?
I know I am stretching this a bit and it is only two examples but that was enough to make me think that sometimes the line between right and wrong isn't always as definite as we think.
But he was god somaybe that is why he got away with it? Who knows.

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Post by Willow » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:57 am

this website just got a lot funnier

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/signs_symbols_links.htm

Don't get me wrong, i am not a huge fan of bush but I doubt he is planning to take over the world with an occultist, elitist group anytime soon. That would involve not ticking anyone off for ten minutes.

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Post by Vetle » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:07 pm

:smt042 Gods, I can't stop laughng. :laughing5:
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Post by Dreams2wicked » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:44 pm

Oh my goddess!!! I just had to check out that site and now I'm shakin' my head in disbelief! I knew there were some "conspiracy paranoid" people out there but geeez... I'm afraid these people are 1 step away from a "special kool-aid" cocktail party!!!
Scary stuff!!! :roll:
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Post by Willow » Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:48 pm

My favourite part is the pic of Mrs. bush giving the "Satan Symbol."
Oh she is a dark one.
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Post by Raven » Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:48 pm

Kool-aid cults.... Darwinism in its prime no?
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Post by Arcanum Owl » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:46 pm

Jesus wasn't a Witch, and how DARE they call him as such.

In the bible it does clearly state that he is the Son of God, not the daughter of God.

That being said he is more likely to be a Warlock, or something similiar.

Please don't pick on Jesus's gender, I'm sure he doesn't like it very much.

Human: "Jebus your such a girl!"
Jebus: "I'm gunna tell my daddy on you."

Quote: "Save me Jebus!!!"
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Post by white_harmony » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:08 pm

My gods, you're a fool John. Everyone prolly thinks you're a churchie now you put up that post! LMAO!!
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Post by Wbdsgnr1 » Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:18 pm

Actually a lot of people think that Jesus was a Druid, or taught by the druids.
He did a lot of "miracles", healing, divination, and other such magicks which are very familiar with us.


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Post by Fairydust » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:03 pm

...I <3 the Cool-Aid cult...^.^ Im such a freak
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that mean old demon bush...

Post by dragonflydrummer » Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:27 am

Well that site is silly -- but if you think about it what better constituency for a satannic cultist who wanted to take over than the "herd-mentality" Xtians and especially their "sheeple" fundamentalists?
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Post by Aero2600 » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:54 pm

I agree that this site is pretty silly, but as with anything, there are always some good points. As confused as these people may be, here a few things that they nail from their witchcraft page:

"Anyone who hates a person is wrong, period."

"There are so many forms of Witchcraft that the practitioners disagree on what a witch is. Most do agree with the dictionary's definition. A religion influenced by pre-Christian beliefs and practices of western Europe that affirms the existence of supernatural power (as magic) and of both male and female deities who inhere in nature, and that emphasizes ritual observance of seasonal and life cycles. (Webster's) Many simply refer to themselves as Pagans or Neo-Pagans"

"Modern day Witchcraft is hard to describe in general. There are many forms to suite ones needs or what one wants to believe. There is no central authority or doctrine. No holy book to refer to. There are many different traditions and rituals. Which god dictates ones opinion and style or gods are worshiped. One common belief is that nature is to be worshiped and is sacred. Many look to the whole earth in general as god. Others look outward to the stars and planets. Others incorporate everything into their worship. Witchcraft gives one the freedom to pick and choose who is divine and worthy of worship."

"Spells and Magic have and will always be associated with Witchcraft and the Occult in general. Many believe that Magic is practiced to bring harm to others. While there are many rouge Witches and some forms of Island Witchcraft do put hexes and spells on people to bring about sickness and even death, the majority of those practicing Witchcraft do not do such spells and curses. They try to live by the above law, "harm no one" Most will tell you that the spells are done to bring benefits and well being. Witches will tell you the reason harmful spells are not done because what ever is sent out comes back seven fold. That is true from what the Bible says you reap what you sow! Galatians 6:7 be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Come on now. They just backed up Karma with a bible quote. Are they confused? Yes. Entirely bad? No. Of course, the reason most of us don't harm others is not because of karma, but because it's wrong.

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Post by Raven » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:00 pm

Have to agree with your last statement Aero.

What would the point of being moral be if we just did it to save our own little hides? Wouldn't be much to morality in that case.
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Post by dragonflydrummer » Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:50 am

No. Of course, the reason most of us don't harm others is not because of karma, but because it's wrong.
Of course each person tries to avoid doing wrong -- in terms of how that individual sees it. It is also true that there seem to be wrongs that most people in the world agree on. But then things get a bit fuzzy -- millions of people support various wars, even though they have a set moral against killing -- or say, support aggressive Capitalism even though they themselves would never think they oppress poor people or steal...

The idea of right and wrong seems to be a flexible one. And combined with the human talents for rationalizing and going into denial seems sometimes to be a very flimsy shield indeed. I suppose this is one of the reasons the Bible-thumpers go back to the "Word". It gives them a modicum of balance on a very choppy sea.

I agree with you though, that most people -- at least in Western culture don't sit down every time they are about to act and ask, "Now -- is this going to bring me bad Karma?"
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Post by Vetle » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:01 am

This is starting to sound like my karma topic in the ethics section, hehe.

I see our belief in karma as a guide to good behaviour. When you're learning right from wrong, you will stop to consider what kind of karma an action will bring. Of course, there comes a point where you do things by instinct and out of habit. However, you need training wheels before you can ride a bike. You don't just wake up one morning and instantly turn into the best pagan there is. It's something that develops. The way it develops is by operant conditioning (woohoo, psychology!) and associating certain actions with either good or bad karma. Furthermore, I think that your belief in karma continues to be a factor in your decision making even when you don't consider it consciously. I think the thought processes that occur consciously when we're conditioning ourselves to proper behaviour still occur later, except they occur unconsciously.
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Saw me praying in my own soul
Death is unfair - That's real pain
Remoun you...Am I almost dead?
I miss my hope; My will to live
My last farewell forever, all alone"

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