What energy do you best connect with?

serious discussion on magick and energy usages in the world and affects.
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Post by Willow » Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:18 pm

Rune...I just have to say, I really missed your pots, I always want to know where you get your infor.

Isn't there a post on the library somewhere about different types of energy?

Does it connect with your sign? Libra is a air sign I think, would that affect the energies you are attracted too?

might energies be complementary? You are attracted to those that can give you something you are missing?
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Post by runewulf » Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:16 pm

My info comes from years of study and practice / experience and speaking / working with others... personally, I don't think the astrological signs have as much to do with it as many do, as if that were true I should be heavy into water, which is actually one of my weaker elements.

And yes, you can be drawn to energies that you are missing... there is a lot of eastern philosophy that revolves around that, from the simple too much yin or yang to the 5 element theory of the constructive and destructive cycles of metal, water, wood, fire and earth.

The more you study and work with energies and get to know them, harmonize with them... the more attuned you will become with them. This is true of most anything... knowledge, skillsets, etc.
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Post by forgotten oceans » Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:26 pm

I would have to say water for the most part. Water seems to love me, Wind likes me, Earth tolerates me, and Fire wants me dead. Winter is the season I like best, but here in Texas we don't get much winter :-( Trees are another big one, when I first moved to the city I nearly had a breakdown. All the trees are so different from back home, so tame and half dead, no will of their own to speak of, going from forest and farm to big city wasn't so fun, it took 2 weeks for me to calm down and learn to deal with the energy change.

CHL I know just what you mean!!! I could be about ready to kill someone and the slightest smell of rain will calm me down instantly. If I have nothing better to do and a storm comes in I'll go for a walk in the rain and afterwards I feel so clean and refreshed.
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Post by Kitsune » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:18 am

I connect with all the elements. Or perhaps more appropriately said, I have no trouble connecting with the living spirits of the elements. I have no trouble connecting to most spirits at all. I've always prefered fire, to earth, but I think that was because I used to think I was a capricorn, and I was trying to prove that I was one. Then I had a friend who did horoscopes professionally tell me that I was 6 minutes too early to be a capricorn. I'm actually a Sagitarius.

I do connect with the spirits well, it's people I don't understand. :roll:
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Post by Ragnar » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:56 am

Kitsune wrote: I'm seeing the moon, or night as a recurrant theme. Has anyone ever had a connection with scenery?

Not one part of Nature, but a part that includes many elements that you may not usually be able to work with, but because the energy has become so connected, you can.
Actualy, my tale can link these two together.

I was in Glencoe, North west Scotland. Plenty of mountains, Trees, sea water loch. Great place. In the middle of this loch is an "Island". Hmm. I will say "island", but it is only that at very high tide, when the narrow cause way is covered.

Any way, it was September, a perfectly cloudless night, full moon, and you could see about 2000 stars (Contratry to "poetics" only 2000 to 2500 starts are visible to the naked eye, not the Thousands, of the romantic writters).

I was laying on this island and could see all these stars, with the bowl of the mountains as a "horizon". It was brilliant. But then, it was as if the stars were bieng sucked down a whirl pool. It was like the whole milky way was bieng viewed as a "WHOLE", not just from the outer edge of some small arm.

Not ONE constellation was reccognisable. A REALLY strange experience.

It ended as fast as it began, jut suddenly, every thing was back in it's place.

But, the scenery, was all important. The water, the reflection of the mountains, and forests, the feeling of raw power that formed the rock, all came together with the stars to give an atmosphere, or view, of what it looked like to the God, or Godess, that said "O.K chaps, lets have a bit of bloody order here" ZAP, and there was order."

I have also had similar experience in the Arctic.

On bridge watch at 0300, engines stopped, every one asleep, except me.

The water was perfectly flat , and the ice bergs were reflected perfectly in the surface. Some were blue bergs. Which are the coulour of the blue in the Swedish flag (Google it :roll: ), but perfectly see through. It is like a big rock of glass, just floating there silent.

I went down to the jack staff at the bow (pointy end). I was the furthest north person in the whole world, that was awake.

Then the dolphins came up. No noise, just doing dolphin surfing things. then dissapearing under the ice.

Magic moments that would no have happened without the scenery. Which is, after all, our home. Spiritualy or physically. It is the scenery that makes the land, which forms the people, creates the culture etc. We are inseperable from the scenery.

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Post by Crazy Healer Lady » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:21 am

That sounds so beautiful...

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Post by runewulf » Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:26 am

As to the scenery question:

The answer would be: Yes (at least in a way)

What it usually is with scenery is the combination of energies combing from the items that make up the area that is effecting you. (usually. I'm not talking about subconscious or emotional response to a given image, but actual energetic connection here) This is actually one of the purposes of asian gardens. To balance out the Chi/qi/ki so that the flow of it is as harmonized as possible. At least in the general sense. There are also garden types that focus on very specific effects or reactions, like healing, calming, bringing peace or happiness, inner strength, etc.

There are also (though not always, or even often, asian) elemental gardens, which are gardens where the plants that are used are dedicated to a given element, or where the garden is segmented and each area is dedicated to a given element and planted and arranged for such. When done right, being in these gardens, you feel that elemental energy flowing around you, filling you if you open to it, coursing over you, etc.

And then, of course, there are the totally natural forms of these gardens... the mountain vistas, or glens.... the forest meadows, the woodland paths, the places that nature made that when you stumble across them, you feel the energy of the place just pour over you and connect with something inside.


So, yes, there is a type of "scenery" that can be connected to.

There is also the psycho/emotional response that one can have to scenery that has nothing to do with energy, such as we would get at looking at a picture or seeing something on TV or what not. That's not really an energetic connection, but it is still a kind of connection. Chances are that if you went to the place depicted, you would connect at some energetic level, even if only very lightly... you'd feel fairly "at home" in such a place.

Hope this helps clarify things :)

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Post by Jescissa » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:47 am

I live in a tiny village in Wales tucked between the mountains and the sea. Whilst I've always been fond of our local seaside, it is the mountains that I love most. I'm a classic Earth lover, I adore walking up the mountainside, feeling the craggy stones and springy ferns under my feet and I find I feel even better when I walk on the mountain barefoot (I haven't fallen foul of anything yet, so the Lord and Lady must like it too :-))

There are small stone circles up on the mountains too and they're so well hidden and accepted as part of the landscape that you almost don't see them until you're practically on top of them. I love wild places, wild mountainsides, wild moors, wild woods.

I connect with the earth and the wind mainly, I find water calming to look at and float on and I love being out in the rain. Fire scares me a little though. I love to watch a flame on a candle, flames are beautiful, but I always have an uneasy feeling at the same time. I never get out of my mind that fire can destroy things so quickly and completely.

I don't fare well in environments with harsh sunlight, but I love the gentle sun of the springtime and full moons send my emotions all over the place.

As for seasons I was born in the winter and I love the snow, but I seem to connect more with spring and autumn, the times when the world is waking up and getting sleepy again :-D
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Post by Kitsune » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:29 pm

Just don't forget that while fire may destroy things so quickly, water can wash everything away just as fast, and earth can bury everything you love, and the air can sweep it all away.

As with anything else, all must be respected. I can understand your unease though. Me, I figure if I give all the elements their due, they're less likely to hurt me or mine.
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Post by Jescissa » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:31 am

I don't disrespect fire, in fact, by not using it all the time and only lighting ritual candles for sabbats, I feel that I am invoking the positive nature of fire and limiting the dangeous aspect of it. If I was to use fire in all of my rituals there is a chance I could be complacent and have no house!

I know very well about the destructive powers of water and earth, however. A few miles along the river Conwy there is a village that floods with the slightest shower of rain. The river bursts its banks regularly every Spring. And as for earth, in midwales in the 60s there was the landslide disaster at Aberfan where a heap of earth slid down the mountainside and covered a school. A lot of children and teachers died as a result.

As for fire, I just have an unease about it. It's not an element I feel good about working with. With water I can see images in the smooth face of a pond or see patterns in the currents of rivers and with earth I use stones, rocks and crystals to enhance feelings and qualities. Even with wind I can see patterns cast in fallen leaves stirred by the breeze, but fire is difficult to read.
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Post by Crazy Healer Lady » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:05 am

Well put, Jescissa

Not to chide you but to add a little something, to give credit to the gentle side of one of my favourite elements (which I also used to be deathly afraid of!! Past life issues... won't go there today LOL)...

Nothing can bring people closer together than to talk around a fire. Issues come out into the open and just seem to be transmuted by the fire between people. Friends come closer together, stories just seem to be drawn out by its heat, lovers enjoy wonderful nights, rituals are given atmosphere, cathedrals glow, children roast marshmallows and bond with family...

This is what I see when I see fire. :-)
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Post by Kitsune » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:22 am

Beautiful CHL! Well put...

I wasn't trying to chide sorry...

When I had unease about an element, I used to avoid it. Then I realized that whether I liked it or not I had to acknowledge it's power.

I was speaking from personal experiance (although mine was with the Tower in my tarot deck), not out a desire to put you down, sorry!

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Post by Ragnar » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:34 am

Crazy Healer Lady wrote:This is what I see when I see fire. :-)
Maybe it's just my coppers brain, but when I see fire, I look for the arsonist. :-D

Must admit though, I get in front of a fire, and you can FORGET conversation until it finally goes out. I have spent 16 hours at a time just watching the flames.

As my old Sergeant was fond of saying; "Give a man a torch, he will be warm for a night. Set him on fire he will be warm the rest of his life."

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Post by Jescissa » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:56 am

As my old Sergeant was fond of saying; "Give a man a torch, he will be warm for a night. Set him on fire he will be warm the rest of his life."
Which won't be for very long after you set him on fire :-? I get the symbolism though :-)

Kitsune, I didn't think you were putting me down :-) No hard feelings! Everyone has different feelings about their faith and the elements involved, that's why this is such a personal thing. Everyone has different opinions and if we didn't share them we wouldn't grow! I took on board your comments even though fire is still not the easiest element for me to get along with :-)

And a pleasant Mabon to all!
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Post by Ragnar » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:23 am

Jescissa wrote: Which won't be for very long after you set him on fire :-?
I think that was meant to be part of the ironic humour, actually. ;)

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