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Post by morgana » Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:31 pm

Fyre, I know that painted on smile/grimace all to well, and it gets more and more grimace-like the closer it gets to x-mas. Not that I don't like x-mas, but if you work in retail you understand.
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Post by Stormy » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:02 am

morgana wrote: if you work in retail you understand.
Understand completely - worked as department second of housewares at Hills many many moons ago - it was horrible at Christmas time. Two days before Christmas a guy came in looking for a specific coffee pot for his wife and we were out. He screamed at me, cursed me, wanted to know what was wrong with me and the store that they didn't have "his" coffee pot, cursed me some more. I told him that perhaps he shouldn't have waited until the last minute and that my own husband didn't speak to me as he was and walked away. I got in BIG trouble for that one. And that's when I decided I hated working at Hills ;)

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Post by FyreGarnet » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:13 am

I don't mind working where I do, except for when people expect us to wait on them hand and foot. They need to be more understanding about our situation. If they would work in retail for one christmas season, they would realize how hard it is. Starting the day after thanksgiving, we have all the registers going, the whole crew is there practically all day long, and we have many people on the floor. And I have been getting our crew ready for this time by training all the new people. And some of the new people are driving me crazy. They don't do their work, and they just stand there goofing of with one another.

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Post by Stormy » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:11 am

FyreGarnet wrote:They don't do their work, and they just stand there goofing of with one another.
One of the reasons I swore off ever being in management again - some people work harder avoiding work than it would be to actually DO the work in the first place.

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Post by morgana » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:35 pm

stormy, know what ya mean about the screaming and cursing people, even when it's NOT the X-mas season! Luckily for me, I work with some pretty cool people, so I've never gotten in trouble for backtalking the customers. And what I say is pretty tame compared to what's really going through my head at the time. They really oughtta give us baseball bats for the stupid customers though, cuz sometimes words just aren't enough....
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Post by FyreGarnet » Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:35 pm

Man, our boss said we should throw them in the trash compactor. But I think a good swift kick in the rear as they are leaving would do the trick.

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Post by morgana » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:17 pm

Hmm, trash compactor sounds like a good idea.... :badgrin:
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Post by Stormy » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:49 pm

Humm, how do I say this after my first day on the job?...

...this is the worst sweat shop I have ever been in. I mean, I can take a LOT, and I do mean A LOT, but this place is DANGEROUS. Oh, yea, sure, they have all this nice protective equipment for you to use, but it sure don't protect EVERYTHING.

One of the jobs is working with the huge mirrors that go into 60-72" TV sets - they are so sharp, and so prone to suddenly breaking as you pick them up due to tiny flaws you may miss, that you have to wear a kevlar apron, gloves and forearm protectors. A broken or dropped mirror is so sharp that the weight of it will sever your arm or leg - through the bone and all. Well, where is my foot protection and leg protection and upper arm protection and neck protection?

And they actually have chlorine alarms because they use a super high grade of industral strength chlorine that if the tanks leak or spill, will burn your lungs out and kill you within minutes. AND they work with mercury and have so many spill problems with it that they actually have a dedicated, specially trained associate to clean it up!!!

The most telling thing is that no one of the close to 3,000 people there looks happy(even though the trainer kept saying, oh, you'll meet some really nice people down on the lines...). We got one day of class room talking and testing and we get one day tomorrow on the line training with other employees who, when I flat out asked the trainer, he admitted may be "a little impatient" - well OF COURSE, since they have these huge quotas that must be met, and the line is rolling along and you have to keep up, training or not.

But I think there was a reason why I got this job that has nothing to do with me needing it - 95% of the people in my class of newbies are not real bright and were buying every lie and line that the trainer/recruiter was handing out. And I asked him all the hard questions that he didn't want to answer which let all those poor folks who desperately need a job know that they'd best not pin their hopes on this one. I wanted to ask him if he was able to sleep well at night, but I thought that would be going too far. I think he only gave me leeway (and dirty looks) because I scored so far above everyone else on the tests.

So, I figure, I got the job because I was meant to go there and ask those questions so that those poor people didn't get lied to and manipulated. I don't know how much longer I'll be staying - maybe I'll work out the week, but not likely to do much beyond that, I don't believe in putting myself in danger just because I am sick of working at home.

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Post by morgana » Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:16 pm

Oh my gosh Stormy, that sounds horrible! I think I'd have walked out of there that day seeing those conditions! If you're gonna work the rest of the week, BE SAFE!! No wonder they have a hard time getting people to work there! :-o
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Post by Lotus » Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:59 pm

Sad to say that sometimes when it seems too good to be true it often is.
Be safe the rest of the week!

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Post by Stormy » Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:17 am

To heck with the rest of the week - I quit last night. The second day was supposed to be training on the line - yeah, right. It was simply being thrown into the mix and put to work with another employee saying "do this this and this". Fine on that, since the job really is a no-brainer, but I didn't like the fact that the line they assigned me to - due to my high manual dexterity scores - was the 72" LCD line - the one with the huge killer mirrors. They didn't start me out with mirrors - thank the Goddess - but instead put me two stations before that, installing the soft squishy, glue backed foam to cushion the screen and twisting 10 steel tabs with a tiny pair of needle nose pliers whose tips didn't match for the first half inch because they were so old and cheap. I was surrounded by mounds of fresh, gluey foam off-gassing so much formaldehyde that my lungs ached and the pliers left a deep bruise in the palm of my hand that was so bad this morning I can hardly use the hand.

And they have "pushers" - a handful of regular Sony employees (not temps) whose sole purpose is to walk the line and bark at you to go faster. I was going so fast that they couldn't keep up on either side yet the pusher kept coming up to me and getting in my face and saying "what are you doing? MOVE MOVE MOVE" he would try to sound light-hearted about it but I assure you, he wasn't all that nice :evil:

I did learn something very valuable though - I haven't just managed to "mask" the horrible temper I had in my younger years - I have truly overcome it. That seems obvious when you consider that I worked the whole day like that, never told off anyone, and simply handed the recruiter/trainer my badge at the end of the day and said "I'm bored, I don't like it, I quit" - so I guess I've also learned that there really are times when pointing out the flaws of something is just a waste of time.

It was also very informative that both of the security guards (to quit you must get security to accompany you to the office and then escort you out the door and stand and watch you to make sure you get on the bus) told me "good for you, this is no place to work".

I felt so bad for the one woman who started with me. She is 55 and has to have a job - she just moved up here to be with her kids but they can't fully support her. They sent her to a station where she had to use a heavy hand driver all day. She was almost in tears when we met out front at the end of the night because she was in so much pain from standing and holding up the drill. When I told her I quit she was happy for me but she said in the saddest voice, "I wish I could find something else..." She lives too far from where my husband works, but I gave her my number and told her that if she ever moves close enough to make the trip worth while, I'll see if Ken can get her in on their production line, which is a sit down position popping in PCB parts and soldering. (I can't work there because of the the excessive soldering.)

I find it extremely disturbing that this is what corporate America has become - Sony is one of the biggest names - I vote that we should all boycott Sony products until they start treating their people like humans again ;)

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Post by RavenEyes » Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:57 am

wow.... that sounds awful Stormy!! But good for you in quitting!! Its a crime that they can get away with having conditions like that in their factories simple because they're a huge company and seem to think they're above everyone else!!! Grrrrr :evil:
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Post by FyreGarnet » Sat Nov 20, 2004 10:39 am

My family already boycotts sony, but that's because every time we buy something, it is less than satisfactory. We like Phillips better. Yep, phillips magnavox.

We have a tv by them, that is probably about 15 years old, and it survived my cat nocking it off the stand a few times.

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Post by Twinblade Tel'Morier » Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:33 pm

wow...I would hate that job...I have it firly easy... work in a 20 x 30 box selling art supplies...not bad, considering the most work I get is at the beginning and end of my school quarter...so anyway, good luck with the job situation, and have a good holiday (should you celebrate one)
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Post by Kystar » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:39 pm

That sucks, Stormy, sorry things didn't work out. Good luck on getting something else.

Have you looked into the office temp work at a university? I've had good luck with the past two years working for University of Pgh. Steady enough work that I only went on unemployment once in 2 years.

But whatever you do, DON"T work for Adecco. They screwed me hard core, and I'm not the only one.

Well, good luck!
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