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Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:40 am
by Max
The age old question. But let's open it up to a more general "who is your favourite hero/heroine from fiction?" :smt057

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:11 pm
by Kystar
Althalus, hands down. (David Eddings, The Redemption of Althalus.) Something about a thief who saves the world by swindling the avatar of a dark god just lights a nice little fire in my heart! And then he gets to marry the goddess of fertility and live forever in divine bliss...LOL! :evil2:
Though, I love Polgara, Belgarath, Garion and the rest of the crew from The Belgariad and The Mallorean. Actually, I haven't come across an Eddings character that I didn't like...or like to the case may have been.

Will Stanton from Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising Sequence gets high props on the does Erik LeBeau, the Phantom of the Opera. (However, Merriman Lyons and Raoul de Chaney are pretty high on my "Just HOW many ways can I torture and kill you?" List)

Batman's there, in my top twenty. With Edmond Dantes and The Musketeers (Book version, not movie, though they were yummy). Harry Potter and his crew are on the top twenty, as long as you don't try and talk to me about books 6 & 7...they don't exist in my world.
Jack Skellington, The Pumpkin King, trolls in my head sometimes, adding to the I'd have to say he was a favorite.

Depending on my mood, Dracula sometimes pops up on the top list, as does Cardinal Richelieu.

But Richard, Chief Warlock of the Brothers of Darkness, Lord of the 13 Hells, Master of the Bones, Emperor of the Black, Lord of the Undead, and the Mayor of a little village up the coast...very scenic during springtime, you should visit, is always on my favorite characters list. ( Just in case you're living under an internet rock somewhere.)

Um...guess I can't give just one, can I?

I could dig into the achieves of my brain and see who's on the list from Shakespeare, but I'm exhausted right now, so I'll pass.

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:29 pm
by Arcanum Owl
Struth Kystar! Did you leave any characters out? :lol:

Althalus... yes he was a laugh, but I find I liked Jimmy the Hand better (Riftwar and Krondor sagas, Raymond E Feist), after Krondor series he becomes less involved but he was a laugh at the start.

My all time favorite hero... well you can't really call him a hero as he tends to cause more trouble then he actually solves, is Fitzchivalry Farseer and his companions Nighteyes and the Fool (Farseer Trilogy, Tawny Man Saga). The Fool's rock, his Catalyst, the creator of heroes. Robin Hobb just writes him too darn well, you actually are screaming at Fitz not to do something which is incredibly misguided but he does it anyway as he thinks he's doing the right thing. :lol: Damn I love those books (eyes off the books on his shelf......) Hmmm might go read them again.

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:47 pm
by white_harmony
Good gods don't get me started!! lol ... In our household we have hundreds of books ... Most of them fiction ... I could be here for a few hours typing this post :lol:

For me ... I don't have one hero/heroine who stands out for me ... But I can shorten the list down, I think lol

High up there on the list is Tori Alexander from Traci Harding's Ancient Future Trilogy. She is taken back in time by a time hopping merlin to the 5th Century, in the hopes that her views on the world, religion and people (not to mention her growing psychic abilities) will help stop the British Isles from falling into a wasteful, hateful, neglected society/country that he has seen on his travels to the future. Along the way, we see some fighting with the Saxons, some time travel back to her own time, romances galore (shes a bit of a match maker lol), great metaphysical lessons, and an all in all spellbinding series (right up into the 'Celestial Triad' which is another 3 books that comes after Ancient Future) that will simply keep you just turning the page. On a side note here ... Good luck finding these books if you are in America. Traci is an Aussie author, and while shes had success overseas, her books have been difficult to locate in America (I have a friend who's been looking for the series for sometime now, to no avail :-( )

I am a fan of alot of the characters who are seen as the heroes out of Anne Bishop's Black Jewel Trilogy and the other books set in the same world that have been written as well. A darker fantasy that other authors tend to write, and yet the world, the people and the 'magic'/craft that she has used in these series almost has you wondering if it is indeed just fantasy. To list a few of my favs out of that series - Lucivar; Saetan; Tersa; Daemon; Jaenelle ... Those are probably the tip of the iceberg as far as scales go lol.

A huge fan of Josseline out of Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series. He is your average run of the mill hero .. He can fight, he's gorgeous, he's smart, and he's shy lol. Not a bad read all in all .. But some people find parts of the series a little hard to stomach (she's a little descriptive when it comes to pain and sometimes mutilation).

I might leave it there for now ... Cause otherwise I'll be here all day lol :-D

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:46 pm
by FyreGarnet
Have you read the new series from Anne Bishop? It is a two book set, with Belladonna and Sebastian. It's so much better than her other stuff, I think.


Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:15 pm
by white_harmony
Yes I have them both. I'm not a fan of her Faery (or elves or whatever it was) series .. But I love the black jewels books lol. Sebastian and Belladonna are definitely up there for me as well, interesting concept .. Great characters :-D

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:38 am
by Max
I always find that male characters have that 'fatal flaw' which makes them an excellent character, but you can't fall in love with them. Female characters are always more attractive in their flaws. I mean Beowulf would never stay at home to feed the kids would he? That said, I reluctantly choose Darcy, or, let's think outside the box, Watson from the Sherlock Holmes stories...
(Oh and Robin Hobb is so good, Liveship Traders series was my favourite)
Kystar - Dracula from the Bram Stoker book?! He's not a hero :badgrin:

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:44 am
by Kystar
Max wrote: Kystar - Dracula from the Bram Stoker book?! He's not a hero :badgrin:
Like I said, depends on my mood. If I'm in a "The Whole World SUCKS" sort of mood, I start to root for the villain! :evil: :evil:

And, Arcanum Owl, I could have gone into my Shanarra favorites, or my Shakespeare favs! Mythology's good for a long list of people I either love or love to slap! Not to mention movies, TV shows, and anime!

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:32 am
by Kitsune
By the Gods, White Harmony, you have good taste!

I also second the Dark Jewels Saga, Daemon and Lucivar are brilliant! I also love the Queen of Glacia (now what the heck was her name?). Jaenelle (sp? I wish I hadn't packed away the series already) was a bit irritating for me. She was better when she was both the Queen and Jaenelle. When she's not denying herself, she's way more interesting!

Josseline was a great character, except of course that he never quite found a way to remove that stick from his ass... Thus making him not quite the "hero" I was looking for. Give me Hyacinthe any day instead... At least he knows how to show a girl a good time (plus, he gets awesome magical powers at the end of it... How can you go wrong!?)

I'd say if anyone hasn't read the "A Story of Ice and Fire" series by George RR Martin, get to it. Daenerys, is my favourite hero from that book series with Arya and Jon coming in a close second. I loved Tyrion, but he seemed to have lost some of that zest that he showed in earlier books lately... Hopefully, when he meets up with Daenerys, he'll have returned to his old self.

Feast of Souls is an excellent book as well. Kamala is a wonderful hero (so she eats the souls of humans to keep her magic going... She's my choice for a hero!)

My list of fav characters goes on and on as well. I have a huge amount of books in my house! Recently though I've been buying a lot of Manga! If those count as books, my list may get that much longer... :badgrin: :-({|= ](*,)

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:51 pm
by white_harmony
Kitsune wrote:I also love the Queen of Glacia (now what the heck was her name?).
*finds books* Karla.

And aye, Hyacinth is a great character, I always forget about him when I think about that series lol. Maybe because hes there at the start ... Disappears through book 2 and most of book 3 .. and then appears again! lol

Has anyone else here read (or like me, started reading - And no Arcanum, you don't get to answer :lol: ) "The Night Angel" trilogy by Brent Weeks? If so .. Would love to hear other people's takes on this series lol.

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:28 am
by Max
Arcanum Owl - I only read the first couple of books with Fitz, I found him so frustrating, I couldn't bear it :oops: I don't know if anyone read The Gap series by Steven Donaldson, now there was a set of books that I would complain out loud to as I read, such troubled characters that you want to slap, and yet I couldn't put them down!

Now if we're talking about Shakespearian heroes Kystar, give me an Othello over a Romeo any day!

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:35 am
by Kitsune
Thank you, White Harmony! We're starting to pack up all of our belongings into a set of small boxes and I've promised to deny myself most books till we move (though I've been buying myself more manga in that last few months than I think I have in the last year, not counting our otafest!)

I'm going to have to see about picking up a few new books soon. I haven't found a good "real book" in ages it feels (okay, well at least since January).

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:40 pm
by Arcanum Owl
:lol: Night Angle trilogy, White Harmony hasn't finished it yet. The author tends to surprise you a fair bit with his plot, but I get this feeling in book 3 he was running out of pages as he quite simply stopped explaining things. Kinda annoying when people would just pop outta the blue and start ordering people around.

Max you thought Fitz was frustrating? He was kinda supposed to be as the char was frustrated a lot. I just like the fact that he only really wants one thing outta life, and the price he pays to get it makes you wonder if it was even worth it. The Tawny Man series continues Fitz story and rounds his story to a nice close. The middle series The Liveship Traders I didn't really like, I know the whole point about the story was that there was no catalyst but it felt too empty for me. If you have read the Liveship Traders make sure you do read the Tawny Man trilogy otherwise the story never reaches a close.

Another good char was old Paul Atreise (yes I probably spelt it wrong) if you can stomach the story of Dune that is, for some reason some people really don't like it.

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:29 am
by Willow
Fitz is pretty cool, but I have to say Mat from the wheel of time is my favourite.

Although, the girls in Tamora Pierce's novels make me pretty happy as well.

Re: Heathcliff or Darcy?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:43 pm
by Max
You're still not selling Fitz to me, I just knew that the author would be mean to him at the end. If you have to wonder if the price he paid was worth it as well..argh. Saying that, perhaps I'll borrow them from my mother at the end of the year when I have some spare time, just to get some closure! I was recently looking through some of my old books and came across some beauties; did any one read the teenage fiction by L.J.Smith? Haha - I loved the end of the Secret Circle set, such a reversal on the typical novel ending. (I won't explicitly say what it was in case anyone plans on reading them.) I still think the female characters were better than the males though. Fellow forum writers, there's a suggestion, write a exciting but virtuous hero (are they compatable?)!