why isn't anyone talking about this?

Now here's something to get steamed up about.
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why isn't anyone talking about this?

Post by lucas » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:48 pm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=6377

Tis scary stuff indeed, at least for those of us unfortunate enough to be living here in Wal-martistan.

AND, today our very wise leaders voted to give the monkey man broad, unchecked powers to surveil us, powers that m'damn speaker of the house said "does violence to the U. S. Constitution".

Are there any parts of Canada that don't get too cold?

btw, this isn't being reported in the media, and congress has yet to comment.

I emailed my senator for comment friday, but I guess he has really pressing business to attend to, as I haven't heard anything at all back.
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Post by Ragnar » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:52 pm

First of all, who are "Global research"?

Are they just a blog site, or do they have teeth?

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Post by lucas » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:36 pm

You know, I am not sure who Global Research is, but the executive orders are very real, and were issued when the site says they were.

Google homeland security presidential directive 20, and national security presidential directive 51 yourself - there are many references to this idiot preparing for a violent take-over by declaring martial law, and our congress as well as the media are ignoring the whole thing.

Maybe we should just drink the kool-aid and ignore it too? [-X

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Post by Crazy Healer Lady » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:21 pm

Bush sucks. Period. The laws that have sprung out of the States in the years of his ruling are terrifying. During the first year of the "War on Terrorism" there were stories of people disappearing for innocent comments against the process at work, home, etc. I for one believe it. The States is a scary place to live right now. I'm nervous even just an hour from the border.

Is Bush preparing for Martial Law? Yeah maybe. Are the other nations in the world going to stand for it? Who knows.

No one is talking about this at the moment because for his entire TERM it looks like Bush is leading up for this. There isn't much many of us can do at the moment other than sit and wait to see if he does it, because otherwise you are a conspirator or you are looney.

It does not mean we have got our heads stuck in the earth. It means we are being carefully selective of what we spent our energy on. You can rant and scream about all of the injustices in the world. Where does it get you? With energy scattered this way and that, and you are angry and depressed and tired.

When we have to fight, we fight. There is nothing to do right now. Save your energy, mon ami. Calm down and don't assume that we are "drinking the Kool-Aid" because we are not up in arms about something that MAY or MAY NOT happen. I agree that it probably will. But there is nothing - absolutely nothing - wrong with doubting the credibility of whoever brings you the news, because the news is in the hands of the media. That is ALL media, even that site you linked.
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Post by lucas » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:20 am

CHL - you are right.

Besides, I have decided that this is my home, and I suppose this is where I will die....someday.

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Post by Kitsune » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:30 pm

And if you look over the news section, we keep fairly close tabs on the Bush administration... At the very least, we all keep each other informed...

And as for me, I inform everybody who will listen, so that they know and won't be overly supprised if it happens, and happily relieved if it doesn't.

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Post by Kystar » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:22 am

honesty, I think if the moron wanted to try it, he'd have a hard time convincing everyone to fall in line. Too many radical wacko groups frothing at the mouth about the Constitution and whatnot in this country, too many NRA members with more weapons that some small countries, too many people with the attitude of "If you don't like my Bill of Rights #Blah...you can come talk to my bill of rights #2 - bear arms." Too many ppl with the idea that the government is in the middle of the conspiracy of the world.

And honestly, can you really think that they would be able to make EVERYONE with the right training fall in step with them? To enact Martial law, not only do you have to make the troops attack their own people, basically, you have to get the reserves and the police to do it too. But, you also have to make sure the veterans who are out of service, but still healthy enough to be a threat don't decide that you're full of it...b/c they can assemble a militia and there you go.

This country has too long a history of telling oppressive leaders to kiss off for us to roll over and play dead for one over ambitious president. He'd probably get assassinated about a week into things.
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Post by lucas » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:28 pm

"He'd probably get assassinated about a week into things."

Well, I can see that you are a glass-half-full person. =D> :lol: :-D
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Post by Ragnar » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:08 pm

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Post by Windwalker » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:25 am

Kystar wrote:He'd probably get assassinated about a week into things.
I was wondering not too long ago why this hadn't happened already.

Then I realised that if it did, Dick Cheney would be in charge.

The idea is to kill them both at once. Then that woman who runs the senate or whatever it is gets to be in charge (I think...). I don't know too much about her, but she must be fairly entertaining because the republicans seem to hate her with the burning intensity of a thousand desert suns.

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Post by Willow » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:40 am

Nancy Pelosi? Yah, republicans aren't big fans.

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Post by Dark Waters » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:35 am

No one is really a big fan of hers.

She and many of her ilk are not only members of the Democratic National Party - but also memebers of the Democratic Socialist Association. And the goals of that organization read pretty much like Karl Marx and the Communist regime he started.

Plus I live in the state she supposedly represents {*snort* *gag*} and she is about as two faced as the Batman villian of the same name. She practices almost none of what she preaches. But talking the good talk, and heavily anti-republican sentiment, not pro democrat - just anti republican, in the major population centers of the state keep here in office. If you look at election results most of CA is "red" with the "blue" area focused on San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Deigo.

For those unfamiliar with American politics "Red" means republican votes, "Blue" means democratic votes and they really don't have a standard color for other parties since they are generally too insignificant to worry about {unfortunately}.
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Post by Willow » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:15 pm

So...I have to dispute that the democratic party stands for the same things as the writings of Karl Marx and the communist party.

Don't get me wrong, they are far more socialist than the republicans, but upon reading the communist manifesto, there are many major differences. Marx never actually managed tostart a regime, it was others taking his writings and using them.

I also assume that all politicians are a little two faced.
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Post by Dark Waters » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:00 pm

I'm not saying the Democratic Party as a whole, but the many of the elected representatives in Congress, including Pelosi, are members of both the DNP and the DSA. I'll see if I can find the list but you'd be surprised - and of course they don't advertise their membership. I have known and voted for several dems in lower offices because they were best for it. They really need to change the thrust of their campaigns from against the Republicans to being for something and sticking with it.

And hell yeah are most politicians, including the Republicans, are experts in double-speak but Pelosi is in the same higher category as Gore who preaches "green" but is more of a resource wastrel than almost any single person in this country. She preaches equality for the classes and masses but her private home can most politely be described as a Manorhouse or Mansion complete with illegal immigrant servants.

I seriously wish that the third parties would consoldate so that they can break the cycle of choosing between the least objectionable of two bad parties.
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Post by Dark Waters » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:44 pm

Still looking for the list, but brief search using "Pelosi" +"Socialist" +"Progressive Caucus" is quite illuminating on the subject.

As of last count 61 Dems and 1 Independant in the House, including Pelosi {30% voting bloc} are members of the DSA.
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