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Is a love spell really the equivalent of rape?
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Post by Stormy » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:43 am

Yes, I see the point that it can't really be controlled if it is a true sexual orientation, but I still stand by that it should not be encouraged.

I also fully agree that it is a case of someone being hurt, unlike other sexual orientations where consent is between adults. The lead cure is definately supported. You figure if it is a genetic problem that it could be lessened by removing the defective genes from the gene pool - and no, that's not meant to sound like Hitler - there is a difference between a truely defective (and dangerous) individual and someone who just doesn't "look" right or have the right ethnic background :evil:

Lotus, I think that it is a genetic predisposition, but I think that in many cases it also encompasses the control and domination aspects.
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Post by Ragnar » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:06 am

We were told in police training they can be both types.

Normaly in different people, but sometimes you get them that are both. :evil:

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Post by Kelreth » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:36 am

Im for the genetic cleansing of people who carry said "dangerous" genes.
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Post by Ragnar » Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:48 am

Which set of pooticians would you trust with the decision as whether they are "dangerous" or not?

Damn, I am going to leave that typing error in. It suits the subject matter of the post better. :lol: :lol:

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Post by Crazy Healer Lady » Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:25 pm

The point is Gays are not harming any one else. Paedophiles however are.

There is only one "control": High velocity lead injections in the kneck.
You have hit the nail on the head.
They are harming children.

Murderers have this urge to kill. We can be sympathetic. "Poor murderer. I know that you cannot help who you are. Just don't do it again, okay? To ease your fantasties how about we give you some videotapes of people being killed. Or some cartoons. This ought to help you not lash out into the population."

It may be something that people cannot help, but they are hurting children. And I think it is worse than murder. Instead of the person dying and their family living with the loss, the child grows up with this. Videos of him or her as a child are displayed on the web or in some pervert's living room. It is a constant prod at their trauma and to the family's trauma should they know. The pain goes on for years and is often never healed.

My best friend was raped by her father as a young child. She has never gotten over this issue. Another of my friends was molested as a todler. I know very few people who were not raped or molested as children. This is a sick, sick thing. It is a violent habit that should in NO way be encouraged, which is all those cartoons do.

Sorry for the tangent but I get very steamed up over this issue, and my niece is chattering at me and I want to scream, thinking if she was ever harmed like that.
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Post by Ragnar » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:01 pm

Crazy Healer Lady wrote:
Sorry for the tangent but I get very steamed up over this issue, and my niece is chattering at me and I want to scream, thinking if she was ever harmed like that.
What tangent. It sounds like it's relevant to the thread to me. :-)

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Post by forgotten oceans » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:43 pm

C.H.L.!!! =D> =D> =D> I agree, rape is worse then murder, death is only a few seconds, rape is a lifetime.

I got an idea! Let's give children handguns! With proper lessons, of course. We'll call it The Great Children's Self Defense Act of 06! New laws for the new times! Rise of pedophiles means rise of the NHRA! What do ya'll think? Think congress will buy it? I don't see why not, the gun taxes go in their pockets anyway, plus, the mental health of future tax payers is at steak! Crazies and the unstable don't pay taxes too well, they don't vote much either. This is the perfect opportunity to use the systems greed for good!

Is the NHRA only in the States, or does Europe have them too? How about Canada, you guys got'em? :-k National Handgun and Riffle Association is what NHRA stand for incase they're only in the States.
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Post by Ragnar » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:11 am

Used to have them in U.K, The National Rifle and Pistol Association + others, until that idiot shot the kids in Scotland. Then the Government took it as a good reason to ban all gun ownership.

What happened? Now the gangs that used to have one or two stolen pistols, ie stolen pistols that had belonged to legal ownners, went else where for their guns. Russia (all ex Soviet and communist block country's), Bosnia, Middle East, South America.

NOW they have everything from Uzi's, Ingrams, Kalashnikovs, to R.P.G launchers (Rocket propeled grenades). They are better armed than the police, and more of them.

Because these were NEVER registered in U.K, they do not even have to bother with getting rid of them after a crime, because they are totaly untraceable. =D>

Gun crime has shot ( #-o ) up. Because before the guns were basicaly in the hands of responsible people. Now only the criminals can get them.

Only 1 or 2% of crime was ever comited by legal firearms owners. Now 100% of guncrime is illeagal from the very first instance the gun enters the country, until it is used. There are estimated to be 400% more guns in circulation now, in U.K, than before the ban!:-?

Rape is one of the other crimes I think should carry the death sentence. Or have I already said that?

Murder CAN be accidental, paedophilia and rape takes thought and/or practice.

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Post by Kelreth » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:22 am

wow Ragnar and i thought that the UK had less guns than the US. Thought assault rifles are now fully legal in the US. for all to own. which scares the crap out of me, knowing that some nutjob has an assault rifle stashed in his house. (no i dont)

Rape is far more worse than murder much much worse and the perverts that do it dont get life they get out after a certain time. which is bull-****. My old peer ministry leader, my second mother if you will was molested as a child and it took years for her to realize what happened and why she had nightmares. And her daughters was almost raped at a college party.

rapist better hope i never find out who they are. I would ahve a hard time not slowly killing them for what they have done to people
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Post by Stormy » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:44 am

Kelreth wrote:knowing that some nutjob has an assault rifle stashed in his house.
Ahem, whilst mine is not fully automatic and was bought during the "ban" I DO own a Bushmaster Bullpup assault rifle (as well as two 9mm handguns, a shotgun and an air rifle) and though I am sometimes considered a "nutjob" no worries, I won't be going postal anytime soon - just loved the bullpup design :-D
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Post by Kelreth » Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:03 am

myuncle has enough guns to supply a small militia. so i dont really mind what peopel have. just legal assault rifle scares me
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Post by Willow » Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:29 am

Won't lie, i don't like guns, My parents are both range safety officers but I prefer to be without them. I have no problem with people who own them because it is the same to me as archery, a skilled sport, and I love swords which are also weapons, but guns are not my cuppa.

As for In Canada, Toronto had its most violent year ever in 2005 with something like 75 gun related deaths. Most of them happened in the Jane and Finch area which happens to be a very poor neighborhood. Everyone is looking for causes. I think education is one major thing, the schools there need a lot of help, and I think Gangsta culture has a lot to do with it as well. Frankly, there have been too many innocent bystanders and I think this year will get better. You will have to ask CHL what it has been like on the west coast.

As for whether rape is worse than murder, I tend to hesitate as to say one is worse that the other, they are both violations on a persons rights. Having been through neither though, I a not sure I have a right to say. I think the thing people forget is that rape is not about sex, it is about power. A person may be aroused by the power but ultimately it is a not from a sexually repressed society. just my two cents, anyway. good topic.
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Post by Crazy Healer Lady » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:51 pm

Gun-related deaths are pretty high here on the West Coast, but not as much as the East. Vancouver is terrible, and Maple Ridge is getting worse because Hell's Angels are bringing in a lot of cocaine and the new generation is getting pretty fond of it.

My sister's ex (my niece's daddeh)'s father has a whole storehouse full of illegal, unregistered guns. Did I mention both are ^@#%ing round the bend??? Beating up cops, beating on neighbours, trying to kill eachother, taking every drug under the sun, bashing my sister's car, almost beating on my mom, a molester, raper, generally terrible terrible guy who is like Rasputin in that he is so strong not bullets, beatings, drugs, and stabbings can take him down together... Cops are afraid of him, and every restraining order in the world won't do any good because no cop will go near him and they only keep him in jail for a few months (ONCE)!!!!


Where do these people come from? In my little town of only about two hundred people? lol.

My story I felt like sharing.
I think the thing people forget is that rape is not about sex, it is about power. A person may be aroused by the power but ultimately it is a not from a sexually repressed society
Hmmm good point.
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Post by Ragnar » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:10 am

Crazy Healer Lady wrote:Gun-related deaths are pretty high here on the West Coast, but not as much as the East. Vancouver is terrible, and Maple Ridge is getting worse because Hell's Angels are bringing in a lot of cocaine
Press rubbish and police propoganda. Do you know any "Hells Angels"?

I mean the proper ones. Not the ones the Police would like you to think are taking over the world.

IF any of these "Drug and gun Kings" WHERE H.A, then they left that behind them long ago.

The "World Government" has found a scape goat to blame things on when their OWN deals go banana shaped.

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Post by Willow » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:16 am

Umm,
Actually, there are quite a few of them in Montreal and there was recently a scandal as the mayor of Toronto arranged a meeting with t he leader of one of the hell's angels gang but wouldn't talk to anyone form the Ontario coalition against poverty.

Grrrr. Mel Lastman :axe:

Anyway, I agree there is a lot of propaganda with t hem, my Mom goes to a lot of biker rallies and you can always tell who the gangs are as their jackets have the colours removed. And not all Hell's Angels are bad, but the covering up they will do for other members is scary.

There is another groups, I think called Satan's choice whoa re a rival.
Interestingly enough, in Barrie where I have family, they recently found a house that was owned by members affiliated with said gangs that happened to have a nice little amount of cocaine on the inside. Anyway, they later found out that the walls had been reinforced with cement and there were some pretty heavy duty weapons in the attic, a man in my choir who was a police officer was telling us this later. This happened around the same time a serial killer named Paul Bernardo was working In Toronto. We (any female of any age) were not allowed to go anywhere for a year without someone else with us after that house and the Paul Bernardo incident.

So point is, i believe there are gangs but I also believe that there has been a lot of exaggerated press surrounding them.
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